Oz Painters

Hello All....First of I was amazed at the sheer quality of the skill of some of the mini's in this forum . I have not painted a mini in over 10 years so go easy on me....

I got the AOBR set pretty cheap and got through the Orks pretty nicely but the Ultra Marines have proven rather hard.
I really like the Ultra Marines in the AOBR rule book and from I can read on GW site they use Mordian blue as a base but mine always turns out really dark compared to the photos?. Also the Asurmen blue wash on the Mordian blue does little to nothing to shade the mini.

Is anyone willing to share there Ultra Marines recipe?. Cheers

Yeah that mordian blue is pretty dark to start with, I would start much lighter and shade down.

The basic theory is that its easier to shade a lighter colour then highlight a darker one. I would use a more mid blue like ultramarines blue mixed with some lighter blue like spacewolves grey and then use mordian blue as a shade colour and as I worked darker start adding dark flesh to the blue and then add some black to the shade. Thats using glazing, so it may be a little difficult to paint that way but the results are worth it.

If these are mostly for gaming then start with the mordian and light blue (SW grey) mix. Just ad the SWGrey until its at the lightness you want. Then you could add the asurman blue to wash, but I would water down some mordian and wash that over the top. Post some pics so we can provide a some other feedback from them as well.

Also if your location info is right we hold painting days at Hall of Heros in Campbelltown once a month for people wanting to learn how to paint, the next one probably wont be until the new year due to the xmas, new year period.

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Thanks Agent Venom for the feed back..

Yes these are for gaming, I will break down the process I was using as I would greatly appreciate any feedback.

I was doing a base coat of Mordian blue, then covering the whole mini with a asurman blue wash. Then re-paint the whole mini mordian blue leaving only the darkest area with the asurman blue. Then I hi-light with ultramarine blue> 50/50 ultramarine blue/space wolf grey > pure wolf grey.


Hall of Heros looks good mate I will definitely check it out!.

I am pretty sure this is how GW paints their Ultramarines... so it works. And looks good.

I like to use more Ice Blue then Space Wolves grey for highlights.. but just a personal preference.

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The possibilities are endless , any chance of you guys posting some pics of Ultramarines you guys have painted?.

In regards to shading Ultramarines are you guys using a wash or starting with the darkest color then laying up to light?. I mite do a 50/50 mix of baal black and Asurmen blue as the pure Asurmen blue is not dark enough.

On a side note is it just me or are the vallejo washes no where near as good as the GW?

Well here is one I painted heaps long ago now.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/automaton_/OZGD08%20minis/kylemorgan_opensilver.jpg

I may go into some detail on how I painted the blue on the tank here... but it was long ago, and dont have time to read pages and pages to see if there is any info.

http://www.mainlymedieval.com/ozpainters/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1937&start=510

And this is a dread a friend painted.

http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics14/img4b0d1dfb5104f.jpg

But the way I would paint it depends on how large the surface was. If it was small, like parts of marine armour, I would start at Mordian blue, and build up to the lighest colour, but on larger surfaces like a vehicle., I would probably start with one of the brightest shades, like Ultramarine + Space Wolf Grey and work backwards, to shade it.

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I always start with I lighter colour and go darker on my minis. It's been ingrained into my method I haven't painted an ultramarine for years so I cont post a pic of any but this below is tha last blue thing i painted a few years ago.



Its basically enchanted blue base colour, shaded with a royal blue and black 50/50 mix. The highlights where handled by adding SW grey and then white to the blue. But I wanted a really saturated blue colour so that may not be what you are after. I also didnt puch my highlights far enough.

I cant comment on the Vallejo washes as I havent used them, but the GW ones are pretty good I must say. Have you tried using the actual 'ultramarines blue' as a base tone?

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Well, if you can manage to get Sebastian to comment here, he could probably tell you the official way the 'Eavy Metal team painted the Black Reach Ultramarines, as he painted a few of them for the studio.

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Thanks guys I have to say this place is really helpful place!..

Kyle that dreadnought is INSANE!, my brain is just trying to digest the paint job LOL!. I guess I have come to the right place for advice as everyone here has a really high standard of skill

agent_venom, I use to use Ultramarine blue years ago as a base but really liked the look of the AOBR Ultramarines as there darker then the early 90's Ultramarines. When you mention shading is that a wash or painting just darking colors into the darker areas?.

Wow thats really impressive to have a Eavy Metal member on board to give advice!.

Im in Sydney City where are you guys getting your plaints and supplies from?

Well, Sebastian (automaton) is not a Eavy Metal painter, but he did, by chance just paint some of the AOBR models for the studio.

As for supplies. I still just mainly use GW paints, so I buy them at my local Games Workshop. I used to buy a lot of my other hobby supplies at Tin Soldier, but they have closed down now.., so I am still trying to figure out where to get Vallejo and Privateer paints, aswell as different flocks, DullCoate and other things... but HobbyCo in the QVB has a lot of the same products, albeit a little more expensive.

Maybe it might be worth to ask Jason how he did his, who just finished a AOBR tactical squad. Here is the forum topic:
http://www.mainlymedieval.com/ozpainters/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4347

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Here's my "Non Ultramarine blue" Ultramarine blue Ultramarines...............Ultramarine, I just wanted to type it one more time

I prefer a more subdued colour as I think Ultramarine straight from the pot is too bright, so I start with a black undercoat. The base coat is GW Ultramarine blue with just a little black added to it, from there I progressivly add white to the base colour blending it up to the final highlight.

Tactical squad
http://www.mainlymedieval.com/ozpainters/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=809

Scout squad and Rhino
http://www.mainlymedieval.com/ozpainters/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3658

I basically use this technique here - viewtopic.php?f=7&t=49

So I apply many translucent layers of paint to create a blend, using progressively darker or lighter colours.

I get my paints where ever I am at the time. Mostly I get what I need at hall of heroes as Im there regularly and its simple for me to grab a pot of paint there as they stock GW, P3 and Vallejo ranges. Most of my stuff I use now was purchased online though. I try to get to HobbyCo in QVB for some things like plastic rod and sheets.

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Sorry my photograpy skill are shocking I know...

I tried 3 thin washes of mordian blue to give a nice even solid finish. I tried to mix 50/50 Baal/Asurmen which gives it a nice dark feel, then I used a pure Ultramarines blue for the first hi-light on the armour.
The pure Ultramarines It is barely noticeable on the mordian blue, is this a good or bad things?. I was planning on then doing a 2nd hi-light of Ultramarine blue/space wolf grey (50/50) then a 3rd and final hi-light of pure wolf grey.


This is what I was planning on doing, is this the general idea on hi-lighthing SM armour?.
No blending just layering at this stage.



Any feedback or tips on painting SM armour with simple GW style layering would be greatly appreciated

Only just came across this havent been on the puter all week heres how I did my AOBR space men
first I used the new air brush and I used all vallejo paints
1 : dark sea blue
2: 50/50 dark sea blue/ royal blue
3: royal blue
4: 50/50 royal blue/silvergrey
5: wash watered down GW devlan mud
6: light coat 30/70 royal blue/ silver grey
hope this helps a bit