Oz Painters

Hi all,

I have been looking around for how to use these and some experienced answers. I have read the 3-step briefs on the ArmyPainter site, but it does not give details for all situations.

Hence, I have opened this thread with the hope that some of you out there may be able to shed some light on this.

To explain why I am interested in this - I was told "dipping" would save me hours when doing infantry (which I despise), so that I would have more time to game and spend time painting characters and such to a higher standard.

Please help!

Cam

from what i gather they are similar to gw's washes, however you get a whole bucket and dip the mini in.... i have seen people use brushes to apply it for more control, afaik it is unsuitable if you want to paint any 'clean' army such as highelves, because the shade is a brown woodpolish type colour. personally i wouldn't use this stuff on any of my minis, as i believe it defeats the point of painting miniatures, if you want quick easy and not so good looking minis one can always buy ppp, which again in my opinion don't look much better than something painted with armypainter ( although i imagine the details will be neater and the sculpt in general should be a a higher quality... but i believe there has been plenty of debate about it on other boards such as wargamer and dakkadakka....

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yeah, what paint brush turkey said is pretty much it, except i'm pretty sure it isn't matte. They base colour it, then put it in what turns out like the old GW inks. You'd be better just using washes.

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KyleM on painting rule number 5: Don't have random dance/food breaks instead of painting models for GD:

I'll accept that.

The examples I've seen of this product, it has dried matte, hardly any gloss to speak of.
If you want a quick army paintjob and you can put down the basic colours, then this may be a good option for you.
Have to say I'm not a fan myself, but I was impressed with the samples shown to me.

Just my 2 cents though.

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BAZINGA!!

Whoops, my bad!

I can admit that i'm wrong here! anyway, I'm not a fan, cos, imo, it doesent really help you improve your painting that much...

EDIT: looked on thier website, what Ive gathered from there is that it does dry shiny, and needs some of thier conveniently priced spray-on matte varnish to not be all shiny-like.

Seems, though, that this dip stuff would be good for u14 youngbloods, some of this and a highlight could be instant-demon!

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KyleM on painting rule number 5: Don't have random dance/food breaks instead of painting models for GD:

I'll accept that.

nah judges know what is dipped and what isn't you can spot it from a mile away if you have the real mini... if you somehow managed to work dipping in with brushed highlights then i guess you may get away with it...

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http://www.coolminiornot.com/artist/Paintbrushturkey

The quick shades from AP are really good for doing rank and fike infantry. Don't think that becasuse you are dipping that you are steeping to a lower standard of painter, people may disreguard dipping but it has its benefits.

I saw a 150 figure roman ancients army painted this way and it looked impressive on the field. The guy had done some touch ups with the brush afterwards and detailed the command and special figs. He told me it was all done in two weeks. It has made me consider this when i get to painting my undead army as all those skellies are needing a good fast paint job.

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Life is like a hot bath. It feels good while you’re in it, but the longer you stay in, the more wrinkled you get.

Agreed. None of this "just buy PPP" instead of using a faster technique. Different techniques for different purposes, do what works for you, not what others think you should do. Especially for painting armies, you're spot on with what you want to do. Save your time for painting the characters.

I've not used Quick Shade myself, but the results seem comparable to using GW washes - I've only used GW washes myself, but I think the benefits of a water-based wash is that it would dry a lot faster than the Quick Shade, which you have to leave for several hours. The GW washes already dry matt too, whereas with the Quick Shade you'd still need to hit it with a matt varnish as the website says.

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Thanks for the opinions and shared advice guys.

The person who put me onto AP QuickShade is a Warmachine player and swears by it for his 'Jacks for the finish it provides.

$ for $ it is better value than GW washes and the gloss finish is effective for certain types of minis and a quick matt coat + edge highlights should be sufficient for rank and file (Eg. Warriors of Chaos)

Also, the fact that after 24hours it dries hard means that it should offer some degree of protection from battlefield/transportation wear and tear on the paintjobs!

Cheers,

Cam

Hey guys,

I'm Luke who's in the Hall of Heroes army painting challenge, and I'm really happy with the result I'm getting applying Quick Shade Strong tone with a brush on my High Elves. For anyone who goes to the Hall of Heroes, the models are in the display cabinet near the front door.

Here's a pic of the Swordmasters unit:



Panting these guys was simple:
1. Grey undercoat spray
2. Painted base colours only, no shading or highlighting
3. Painted on the Quick Shade (Strong tone)
4. Waited 48 hours then did a tiny bit of highlighting on the gold
5. Sprayed them with Dull Coat

Really easy... I like the stuff... especially on High Elves

Those indeed look impressive. From what I can gather there are 2 pointers to keep in mind: Paint the base colours very clean, colours must be chose for high contrast.

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Are you real?

Very nice.

I have actually had a mate ask me to paint his high Elves from IoB.

And this looks to be the way to knock over his rank and file.

The colours I used were:

From the Army Painter range...
The grey undercoat spray
Strong Tone Quick Shade

From the GW range...
Mithril Silver
Shining Gold
Scab Red (first layer of red)
Calthan Brown (gloves)
Bleached Bone (banner pole, and I mixed it with something that I can't remember for the hair)

From the Vallejo range...
White
Red (second layer of red)

From the P3 range...
Sulfuric Yellow (plumes, crescent moon decorations)


They're great models, enjoy painting them

Also, if your at Auscon this weekend... visit the Irresistible Force stand for a demo on how to use quick shade from either Gav or Glenn. They were showing this technique on some GW Tomb Kings and they looked fantastic!

SNK

I was at AUSCON, unfortunately, I was too busy at AUSCON to see this post.

However, I did meet Martin and Gavin and even bought $350 worth of product, including my new airbrush and comp0ressor along with everything I need to maintain it. I also bought some paints...